I have recently overheard the following in regard to “selling more APs.”
“Let’s recommend two APs per classroom for more capacity.”
“Just go with one AP per classroom. It’s easier.”
“We recommend an 8-radio array per classroom for future proofing.”
I’m in no way poking at any vendor here. If anything, I’m poking at those who design and install Wi-Fi networks. I’ve heard the “two APs per classroom” thing more times than I can count. One AP per classroom can be an acceptable (or even good) deployment strategy when proper design techniques and processes are used. There has never been a time when deploying 8 radios (whether via array or individual APs) per classroom (or any room smaller than an auditorium or cafeteria) has made sense. #JustSayin
My company, Divergent Dynamics, is a Wi-Fi Systems Integrator. We’re also a Value Added Reseller (VAR) for some vendors. Being in this role, I certainly understand the desire to “sell more APs”, but integrity dictates that my customers’ best interests are my ‘prime directive.’ “Sell more APs” and integrity may seem to be at odds in this scenario, but in fact, that’s not the case. It took going through what I like to call “NextGen Wi-Fi Design” in order to figure out how manufacturers, VARs, and customers may now get what they all want through proper design techniques.
I’m very fortunate to have a very large customer who believes in “getting it right” and has enough funds to follow through on deploying the best Wi-Fi design possible. The purpose of this blog is to outline some of my “lessons learned” from working with this customer and to show how everyone benefits from good network design.
5GHz Centric
Today’s enterprise Wi-Fi networks should either be completely on 5GHz or primarily on 5GHz (while moving off 2.4GHz as quickly as possible).
While there are lots of folks in the industry who would argue against me on this, I believe that anyone still heavily relying on 2.4GHz is behind the curve and setting themselves up for a rude awakening here soon. When engineers argue in favor of 2.4GHz, I usually ask them to show me a clean 2.4GHz environment with lots of non-overlapping channels. Barring a physics-defying response, I usually win the argument. I believe that most folks understand that 2.4GHz (as it relates to Wi-Fi) is on life support, and will soon be utterly dead. Some folks argue against this notion only in an attempt to justify not going forward with the inevitable expenditures associated with a 5GHz centric network. I suggest that you get the inevitable pain over with now and leave 2.4GHz for Bluetooth, Zigbee, and other non-WiFi uses.
Even while hanging onto life by a thread, 2.4GHz causes far more pain (and associated costs) than it’s worth, and the ROI is just terrible. Consider the user experience problems caused by band steering features when particular client devices don’t like being band steered. Consider the user experience ramifications when the 2.4GHz band has lots of interference and high utilization, especially when client device drivers prefer the 2.4GHz band. Consider the user experience hiccups when roaming between 2.4GHz and 5GHz (or vice versa) while using VoWiFi or streaming video. Consider how many help desk calls and trouble tickets are generated by a poor user experience!
DFS Channels
Folks like to bring up the DFS argument against moving to “5GHz centric” networks. The argument is that some client devices don’t support DFS channels. While true, likely half (or more) of the dual-band capable client devices in the market do in fact support DFS channels. Since UNII-2 and UNII-2e give us up to sixteen 20MHz channels (depending on some variables), why would we waste that channel capacity by whining that some of our client devices don’t support DFS? The simple answer for deploying DFS channels is to alternate DFS channels with non-DFS channels. This, of course, requires manual manipulation of channels today.
Note: Radio Resource Management (RRM) algorithms need to have an option that allows administrators to essentially “sprinkle” DFS channels between non-DFS channels for maximum client compatibility. This is easily done, but I suppose that vendors haven’t yet considered this. If you’re a vendor, and are reading this, please consider this a feature request.
Service Enablement
With more available channels & airtime, no band steering issues, and no worries of poor client device drivers trying to pull devices over to an interference-laden 2.4GHz band, VoWiFi is obviously going to work much better. The same holds true of Location Based Services (LBS), Emergency Response systems, and more.
What’s also important to consider is that by removing Wi-Fi from 2.4GHz, other important platforms will now have less interference, such as Beacons (BLE), Zigbee (sensors), cordless headsets, etc. If you get lucky, your neighbor’s client devices will prefer 2.4GHz and will stay off your nice new 5GHz bands!
Dedicated Monitoring
5GHz doesn’t penetrate as well as 2.4GHz, and that’s a VERY good thing for adding capacity to your Wi-Fi network. If the walls within your facility cause significant RF loss (e.g. concrete, brick, or other), you may have 5GHz APs in many (or even most) rooms. When this is the case, it works well to locate dedicated sensors (aka scanner or monitor mode APs or sensors) in the hallways and/or other similar common areas on a 1:4 to 1:6 ratio of Sensors-to-APs. Such dedicated sensors are extremely useful for security monitoring (e.g. WIPS), performance monitoring, and troubleshooting (e.g. spectrum and protocol analysis). Note that if your vendor has spectrum analysis, protocol analysis, WIPS, performance measurement, and other diagnostic tools within their feature set, there’s no reason that you cannot “overlay” your infrastructure with dedicated sensor APs from the same vendor.
5GHz Centric APs
The reason 2.4GHz has survived as long as it has is that AP manufacturers continue to cater to the least common denominator, which is 2.4GHz. Some innovative manufacturers have realized the folly in this approach and have created dual-radio APs that can have both radios on 5GHz. Smart.
If I were trying to keep costs down, I would install single-band 2×2:2 11ac APs and have them all configured for 5GHz. That gives you a FAST, SCALABLE, and INEXPENSIVE network. If I were going after maximum capacity, I would install dual-radio 3×3:3 11ac APs and have both radios configured for 5GHz.
More APs
As I mentioned in the beginning, urging the customer to buy “more APs” doesn’t necessarily conflict with integrity, and in fact, the two could be very much aligned – provided there is a proper network design in place and a realistic purpose. More 5GHz radios can mean:
- More capacity
- More service enablement
- Less monitoring/troubleshooting
- Better user experience
Devinator’s Deduction
Buy more 5GHz APs. How hard is that?
I find the term, “just buy more AP’s” as a tell tale sign there *might* be an integrity issue…
It isn’t about the number of Access Points installed. It is all about frequency re-use. Your death knell for 2.4GHz is predicated on this very idea.
Adding more AP’s that share a same frequency with some other AP on the same channel does NOT add any more additional capacity. Like I said, it is all about frequency re-use.
Those who understand that core feature of 802.11/Wi-Fi and still try to see more AP’s – that is where integrity comes into play. Those who don’t understand the concept need to stop selling AP’s all together – if they don’t know how the technology works, they shouldn’t be selling it all all.
But that’s just one person’s opinion – and since this is the blog for the Devinator, I know you’d be good with that… 😉
Devin,
8-radio array per classroom sounds like a familiar sale tale. We once purchased hundreds of 4 radio arrays for an entire school district and ended up with 100 of them to be installed in 100 portable classrooms. Which meant that a portable classroom [sometimes with just one teacher’s laptop needing wireless connectivity] had a 4 radio array within a few feet. Selling this solution without regard for the actual needs of the customer make me agree with Mr. Parsons that “there *might* be an integrity issue…”
I hope sales personnel read this and take your advice that based on integrity their prime directive must be the customers’ best INTERESTS.
So where are my 5GHz-only 802.11ac APs? Why should I be paying for a useless 2.4GHz radio that’s sucking up power and putting me into 802.3at territory?
Totally agree. The best bang-for-buck is in putting single radio 11ac APs anywhere WiFi is needed and then putting dual radio 11ac/11n radios only where 2.4G is absolutely required.